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plus, the president is announcing that he doesn't even want to put it towards deficit spending. he wants to do new spending, new stimulus, new infrastructure, new education. there's not one word of entitlement reform, social security reform, medicare reform. the structural debt. let me tell you what the leverage is, cornel. you want to know what the heart of the electorate is? it's the senate democrats who are elected in the last midterms and the senate democrats that were elected this time on a debt reform, spending reform, entitlement reform. those are your senate democrats who couldn't even pass something that was half as bad as this. you're not -- this is worse than laughable. it's despicable. >> a couple of things. one, mary, i love you in red. two is that look, what's wrong with us going back to quite frankly the rate under bill clinton? you remember the clinton years? the largest economic expansion in our history? everyone's boat rising, everyone paying their fair share, deficit reduction, the middle class growing. the problem with what republicans want to do right now, w
plus, the president is announcing that he doesn't even want to put it towards deficit spending. he wants to do new spending, new stimulus, new infrastructure, new education. there's not one word of entitlement reform, social security reform, medicare reform. the structural debt. let me tell you what the leverage is, cornel. you want to know what the heart of the electorate is? it's the senate democrats who are elected in the last midterms and the senate democrats that were elected this time on...
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president does not represent the bowles simpson plan, nor is it the bowles plan in my testimony on deficit reduction. i simply took the mid point of the public offers, put forward during the negotiations to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaker boehner's letter. the question i wanted to ask you is some of the details, as you know, it's all in. >> can we spin one more point on that? >> absolutely. >> here's speaker boehner who is taking a mid point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it, and it's already flatley rejected? >> i think he may be rejected, sir, if i may -- >> i'm not talking about simpson -- erskine boelsz. i'm talking about the white house's response to it. >> let's get to that too. i think what erskine bowles is saying in his statement, that this letter from speaker boehner does not represent his theory, number one, but i think the line that the white house is having problems with, and i believe i found it in page two of the speaker's letter, i'll read it to you if i can. he says this, notably
president does not represent the bowles simpson plan, nor is it the bowles plan in my testimony on deficit reduction. i simply took the mid point of the public offers, put forward during the negotiations to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaker boehner's letter. the question i wanted to ask you is some of the details, as you know, it's all in. >> can we spin one more point on that? >> absolutely. >> here's...
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in my testimony before the joint select committee on deficit reduction, i simply took the midpoint of the public offers to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaking boehner's letter, but the question i wanted the to ask you -- >> can we spend one more point on that? >> of course. >> what did he say? that was the midpoint of a compromise from the two. so, here's speaker boehner who is taking a new point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it and it's already flatly rejected? >> i think what he might be rejecting, sir, if i may -- >> no, i'm not talking abo about erskine bowles. >> i think what he's saying in his statement, this letter from speaker boehner does not represent his theerly, number one, but i think the line the white house is have been problems with, i believe i found it in page two of the speaker's letter, he says this. notably, the new revenue in the bowles plan would not be a i chiefed through higher taxes, which we continue to oppose and will not agree to in order to protect small businesse
in my testimony before the joint select committee on deficit reduction, i simply took the midpoint of the public offers to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaking boehner's letter, but the question i wanted the to ask you -- >> can we spend one more point on that? >> of course. >> what did he say? that was the midpoint of a compromise from the two. so, here's speaker boehner who is taking a new point on the...
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trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion worth of debt already on the books. every man, woman, and child owing the government over $50,000 and that number is increasing every single year. and i think as a result our members understand that we've got to solve the problem and we will. >> so the bottom line is it really seems obvious, especially after talking to members coming out of that meeting, that they have been able to at least so far turn the rank-and-file and obtained them and said to the conference, the american people re-elected, meaning the president, and re-elected us. that's not a mandate to raise taxes. it's a mandate to work together. >> mandate to work together which means they may not go on their break which is expected. i heard the speaker tell you that he's going to tell you as well. quickly, dana, he's going to stay regardless of whether they go on break, right? >> reporter: right. and the question was the house of representatives is going to finish their work this week in about 45 minutes and it's only wednesday. >> right. >> reporter: they
trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion worth of debt already on the books. every man, woman, and child owing the government over $50,000 and that number is increasing every single year. and i think as a result our members understand that we've got to solve the problem and we will. >> so the bottom line is it really seems obvious, especially after talking to members coming out of that meeting, that they have been able to at least so far turn the rank-and-file...
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we have put down our down payment towards deficit reduction by saying that we believe that $1 trillion or so over the next decade of those tax cuts above and beyond a quarter of a million dollars can go to deficit reduction. our republican colleagues need to say specifically what they want to cut. when they say entitlements, entitlements is medicare and medicaid. what do you want to do about medicare and medicaid? put it on the table, let us know. let the american people know. then we can ultimately come to a conclusion and maybe have that celebration you're looking for, piers. >> senator menendez, good to talk to you. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> when we come back, i talk to leaders on both sides of the palestinian debate. do they think today's vote threatens the peace process? aveeno has an oat formula, now proven to build a moisture reserve, so skin can replenish itself. that's healthy skin for life. only from aveeno. as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios ...but you still have to go to the gym.
we have put down our down payment towards deficit reduction by saying that we believe that $1 trillion or so over the next decade of those tax cuts above and beyond a quarter of a million dollars can go to deficit reduction. our republican colleagues need to say specifically what they want to cut. when they say entitlements, entitlements is medicare and medicaid. what do you want to do about medicare and medicaid? put it on the table, let us know. let the american people know. then we can...
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we have put down our down payment towards deficit reduction by saying that we believe that $1 trillion or so over the next decade of those tax cuts above and beyond a quarter of a million dollars can go to deficit reduction. our republican colleagues need to say specifically what they want to cut. when they say entitlements, entitlements is medicare and medicaid. what do you want to do about medicare and medicaid? put it on the table, let us know. let the american people know. then we can ultimately come to a conclusion and maybe have that celebration you're looking for, piers. >> senator menendez, good to talk to you. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> when we come back, i talk to leaders on both sides of the palestinian debate. do they think today's vote threatens the peace process? [ nurse ] i'm a hospice nurse. britta olsen is my patient. i spend long hours with her checking her heart rate, administering her medication, and just making her comfortable. one night britta told me about a tradition in denmark, "when a person dies," she said, "someone must open the window so the sou
we have put down our down payment towards deficit reduction by saying that we believe that $1 trillion or so over the next decade of those tax cuts above and beyond a quarter of a million dollars can go to deficit reduction. our republican colleagues need to say specifically what they want to cut. when they say entitlements, entitlements is medicare and medicaid. what do you want to do about medicare and medicaid? put it on the table, let us know. let the american people know. then we can...
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we're the ones that are going to be handed down the $60 trillion deficit. they will come to a deal. but right now, it's political theater. and it's probably going to look like the simpson-bowles. that will come full-circle again. >> here's a problem the republicans have got themselves into. is obama has been very clever here, the president. i think what he's done is skillfully said to the public, if he goes over the fiscal cliff, the republicans are prepared to make the entire middle class to pay more tax to save 2% of the wealthiest americans paying a little bit more. and that's a very bad position for the republicans to find themselves in, isn't it? >> it certainly is. it's a very bad position for them to find themselves in. the fact of the matter, it isn't true. raising taxes on the wealthiest americans will not only solve the problems. it doesn't even address the core problems. the core problems, $16 trillion in national debt comes from government overspending. and we have sluggish growth. raising the taxes on anybody, whether it's the poor or the middle class or the wealthiest
we're the ones that are going to be handed down the $60 trillion deficit. they will come to a deal. but right now, it's political theater. and it's probably going to look like the simpson-bowles. that will come full-circle again. >> here's a problem the republicans have got themselves into. is obama has been very clever here, the president. i think what he's done is skillfully said to the public, if he goes over the fiscal cliff, the republicans are prepared to make the entire middle...
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a real deficit reduction. 70% of the american people support that. they can't even come to terms with that. they seem to have not noticed the republicans that we did have an election. the president campaigned on this question of continuing tax cuts for the middle class but raising them back to the clinton rates -- returning to the clinton rates for the top 2%. he pledged that he would veto anything but that. and he will. so until the republicans agree to those clinton-era rates, we are going to go off the fiscal cliff. >> you know, it's interesting, ari, you'll remember this because you were the white house press secretary in 2001 and 2003 when those bush-era tax rates were approved basically by republicans, very few democrats voted to approve those bush-era tax cuts. so why not do what the republican congressman from oklahoma says, what paul just said, go ahead, declare victory. say, look, all these democrats are now on board, they support for 98% of the american people the bush-era tax rates for a long time to come, declare victory and move on. >>
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rule out sensible spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement that will reduce our deficit. and mr. bowles himself said there is no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way for -- pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. and we're the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reforms, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis. and get our economy going again and to create jobs. so right now, all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it's time for the president, congressional democrats, to tell the american people what spending cuts they're really willing to m
rule out sensible spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement that will reduce our deficit. and mr. bowles himself said there is no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way...
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this is why medicare down the road adds so much to the federal budget deficit. so republicans say raise the retirement age to 67 or means testing, meaning making more wealthy americans pay more into the system or get less out of the system. if you means test, that means you're paying less out to affluent americans. if you raise the retirement age, you're paying out less as money comes in and keeping the revenue line closer to the cost line. that is the goal. so when you do a 10 or 20-year calculation, medicare is not adding to the deficit. but that's the policy and just as republicans are having a backlash against the speaker saying we don't think we should put tax increases on the table, the democrats and some of the new members in congress, they say they ran promising not to touch medicare. so they say they won't do this. so you have the credibility challenge. republicans say give us entitlement and other spending cuts and the democrats want higher tax rates. that's why we have a stalemate. >>> an internet icon wanted in connection with the killing of his neig
this is why medicare down the road adds so much to the federal budget deficit. so republicans say raise the retirement age to 67 or means testing, meaning making more wealthy americans pay more into the system or get less out of the system. if you means test, that means you're paying less out to affluent americans. if you raise the retirement age, you're paying out less as money comes in and keeping the revenue line closer to the cost line. that is the goal. so when you do a 10 or 20-year...
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and that is, we must ask the wealthy to pay a little more so we can get these deficit eliminated. get our debt paid down and start growing the economy again. that's not unusual or new to any of us. nobody in the country. so i think the president is sticking to what he said throughout the campaign and as i said 3 million more people voted for him than voted for the other guy. >> with that said, on taxes, if there's any chance on your side, is there any chance on your side to come down to the form of a smaller tax hike on incomes above $250,000 or would you consider keeping rate it is same at $250,000 and raising them only on higher incomes, say half a million or $1 million a year? >> i think it's all part of the negotiations. we know where the president is and that is 250,000. but there are a lot of democrats who voiced back before the campaign 500,000, some say even a million. all of that is going to be negotiated. the president wants 250. if mr. boehner wants to come and offer something different, i'm sure he will do that. but the president stands at 250. which is below even wher
and that is, we must ask the wealthy to pay a little more so we can get these deficit eliminated. get our debt paid down and start growing the economy again. that's not unusual or new to any of us. nobody in the country. so i think the president is sticking to what he said throughout the campaign and as i said 3 million more people voted for him than voted for the other guy. >> with that said, on taxes, if there's any chance on your side, is there any chance on your side to come down to...
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. $2.4 trillion were the bush tax cuts that resulted in this enormous deficit, because in the 199os, we had a $5.6 trillion surplus. what the president is trying to do is to give relief to working people, and as well provide revenue to continue to support the needs of this nation. such as mayor bloomberg, who's just come to washington and asked for an enormous amount of money, rightly so, to help those who've been victims of hurricane sandy. so the president is not in any way suggesting that he's not willing to negotiate. he asked the questions, when are the republicans going to be considerate of those who get up every day and work? or those who need medicare or social security and medicaid? that is what the bottom line is for the president and for democrats, to protect benefits in a reasonable manner, and to ensure that we have the revenue to bring down the deficit and to continue to operate in the needs of the american people. >> i'd like to talk about those entitlement programs because i know that this is very near and dear to your heart. the lion's share of the $400 billion in cu
. $2.4 trillion were the bush tax cuts that resulted in this enormous deficit, because in the 199os, we had a $5.6 trillion surplus. what the president is trying to do is to give relief to working people, and as well provide revenue to continue to support the needs of this nation. such as mayor bloomberg, who's just come to washington and asked for an enormous amount of money, rightly so, to help those who've been victims of hurricane sandy. so the president is not in any way suggesting that...
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>> we had 18 debt an deficit commissions since ronald reagan became president in 1981. in more than half of those, medicaid, medicare an social security were supposed to be part of fixing the debt and deficit, it never happened. if they kick the can down the road again without fixing entitlements in the process, entitlements still won't get fixed. >> we asked you to comment on the news and then sometimes you make news. the news about you, it says you are considering running in a primary to challenge saxby chambliss. are you any closer to a season? tell me what you're thinking and who is encouraging you to do that. >> well, you know, i said all along, no i'm not going to do this. i've been dismissive. in the past couple days, a number more prominent names have been calling and saying shy do it. i feel i owe them more consideration. i'm not closer to thinking i will do it, but i'm thinking about it more. my wife is adamant if i do it, i will be buried in the backyard before i announce. i think saxby chambliss, it's time for him to be primaried. >> your wife will bury you
>> we had 18 debt an deficit commissions since ronald reagan became president in 1981. in more than half of those, medicaid, medicare an social security were supposed to be part of fixing the debt and deficit, it never happened. if they kick the can down the road again without fixing entitlements in the process, entitlements still won't get fixed. >> we asked you to comment on the news and then sometimes you make news. the news about you, it says you are considering running in a...
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it's not responsible for the deficit and debts. neither is social security. you're right, medicare and social security have long-term fiscal challenges. they need to be dealt with. i don't agree with connect connecting those to the deficit and debt program not created by those programs. >> i want to switch gears. as a senior member of the house intelligence committee i want to talk about benghazi. let me quote. part of what you said, there should be a laser-like focus on going after those responsible. but in the blur of partisan wrangling over talking points we seem to have lost sight of the vital objective. some on capitol hill and elsewhere seem determined to go after another bright diplomat ambassador susan rice. i want to talk about finding those responsible. the fbi seasonisn't saying much. from what i know we have heard zero about arrests. what can you tell us about these perpetrators? >> well, i can tell you that we still have a lot of work to do. the intelligence community is pursuing all of the leads. there is nothing that i want more. this is true i
it's not responsible for the deficit and debts. neither is social security. you're right, medicare and social security have long-term fiscal challenges. they need to be dealt with. i don't agree with connect connecting those to the deficit and debt program not created by those programs. >> i want to switch gears. as a senior member of the house intelligence committee i want to talk about benghazi. let me quote. part of what you said, there should be a laser-like focus on going after those...
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and it's clear today that important first step rebuilding the trust deficit, closing the trust deficit, a long way to go. >> john king, thanks so much. good to see you. >>> a warning from the fda about one of the most prescribed drugs in the u.s. new details of a massive recall. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committe
and it's clear today that important first step rebuilding the trust deficit, closing the trust deficit, a long way to go. >> john king, thanks so much. good to see you. >>> a warning from the fda about one of the most prescribed drugs in the u.s. new details of a massive recall. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump...
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it's about $2.2 trillion, they say, in savings to the deficit but on that fundamental as you say key sticking point, it doesn't change anything. they simply do not propose to raise any tax rates. let's just look at some specifics on this tax issue. the house gop counter proposal which came out this afternoon does put out 800 billi$800 billw tax renoouf. nothing on bush-era tax rates. those would continue. just look at that compared to the white house offer which last week which was $1.6 trillion in tax revenue. the majority of that from raising tax rates for the wealthiest americans and still absolute biggest divide between the two sides. no question about it. >> and so when you really look at where we are, democrats want tax rates to go up for wealthier americans. republicans long pushing for changes to entitlement programs and what else is in this republican proposal then? >> reporter: some of that, as well. look at that. $600 billion in what republicans call health savings. we don't have a lot of specifics on it but republican sources say that much of that will come from medicare
it's about $2.2 trillion, they say, in savings to the deficit but on that fundamental as you say key sticking point, it doesn't change anything. they simply do not propose to raise any tax rates. let's just look at some specifics on this tax issue. the house gop counter proposal which came out this afternoon does put out 800 billi$800 billw tax renoouf. nothing on bush-era tax rates. those would continue. just look at that compared to the white house offer which last week which was $1.6...
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the only thing bigger than the budget deficit is the trust deficit in washington. christine romans, cnn, new york. >>> developing now, nato allies say they have grave concerns that syria's government could be preparing to do precisely what so many have been fearing, unleash the chemical weaponry on its own people. president obama issuing a stern warning after intelligence reports suggest that president bashar al assad's regime is mixing these chemicals to make the deadly, deadly gas called sarin. >> today i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> former british prime minister tony blair echoing the concerns earlier today on cnn. >> there are a lot of people dying. now the death toll probably would be around 40,000 since this began, since a large number of people. but if there was any sense at all that assad was going to use ch
the only thing bigger than the budget deficit is the trust deficit in washington. christine romans, cnn, new york. >>> developing now, nato allies say they have grave concerns that syria's government could be preparing to do precisely what so many have been fearing, unleash the chemical weaponry on its own people. president obama issuing a stern warning after intelligence reports suggest that president bashar al assad's regime is mixing these chemicals to make the deadly, deadly gas...
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the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in revenue, just gives them more to play with on capitol hill and more to spend. when we talk about fairness, when the top 2%, the $250,000 and above are already paying 45% of total income tax, that's a big question of fairness there too. >> who should nicki haley name to replace you? >> i talk today her today. i share the same philosophy, the conservative philosophy. i told her i trust her decision and i'm not going to push her one way or another. >> a lot of speculation, congressman scott? >> he's a wonderful person. our whole delegation is really strong. she's got a tough choice, but i'm convinced she'll give m
the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in...
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we've been running a trillion dollar deficit every year under this administration. president obama has nearly doubled the debt. the spending is out of control. and it's -- we have this economy that continues to struggle -- >> the debt ceiling -- >> the debt ceiling is our opportunity to really look at these questions, but the republicans want to negotiate -- speaker boehner the day after the election, went to the podium and put tax revenue on the table. this is our moment, this is our -- tip o'neill and president reagan back in the early '80s, they came together. they negotiated to save social security as well as address the spending. and it was a $3 in spending cuts to every dollar in new revenue. and that's the type of approach we need today. >> they never used the issue of debt ceiling in those negotiations. that's relatively new. the president says, i will not play that game. he may have no choice, because the republicans have a decisive majority in the house of representatives. if they want to play that game, he's going to have to do it. >> whey believe the pre
we've been running a trillion dollar deficit every year under this administration. president obama has nearly doubled the debt. the spending is out of control. and it's -- we have this economy that continues to struggle -- >> the debt ceiling -- >> the debt ceiling is our opportunity to really look at these questions, but the republicans want to negotiate -- speaker boehner the day after the election, went to the podium and put tax revenue on the table. this is our moment, this is...
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republicans lashing out at speaker boehner over his deficit reduction plan. are lawmakers really going to let us go over the cliff? and a gruesome photo sparking outrage. should "the new york post" have put up this picture of a man moments before he was crushed to death by a subway train. it with you on the cover. we're hearing from t
republicans lashing out at speaker boehner over his deficit reduction plan. are lawmakers really going to let us go over the cliff? and a gruesome photo sparking outrage. should "the new york post" have put up this picture of a man moments before he was crushed to death by a subway train. it with you on the cover. we're hearing from t
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and the chancellor of the -- the finance minister has now warned that he won't meet his deficit targets for austerity will have to continue. we expect higher taxes on the rich tomorrow, cuts in public spending, and in this environment the multinationals like google, amazon, starbucks, are very firmly in the firing line. after all what better than to attack big corporate america. and they're being told, smell the coffee. i can play that game, too, michael. >> wake up and smell the coffee. always good to see you, mr. quest. always making it simple for us. richard quest in london. probably didn't pay for that coffee. >>> over the weekend, the palestinians celebrated their new status recognized by the united nations. the joy short-lived. how israel's decision to pursue even more settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem may kill any hopes of peace. we'll dive deep lie into this issue. >>> rp says it's not changing plans for the controversial housing development in east of jerusalem also developments in east jerusalem. this is despite getting a diplomatic mackdown recently from austral
and the chancellor of the -- the finance minister has now warned that he won't meet his deficit targets for austerity will have to continue. we expect higher taxes on the rich tomorrow, cuts in public spending, and in this environment the multinationals like google, amazon, starbucks, are very firmly in the firing line. after all what better than to attack big corporate america. and they're being told, smell the coffee. i can play that game, too, michael. >> wake up and smell the coffee....
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coburn is known for his hard line on the deficit. he says he would rather bring down the debt by raising tax rates than just closing the loopholes and capping deducti s deductions. here's how he explained it. >> personally, i know we have to raise revenue. i don't really care which way we do it. actually, i would rather see the rates go up than do it the other way because it gives us greater chance to broaden the by as in the future and reform the tax code. >> two republican senators from maine are joining coburn in backing a tax hike on the wealthiest americans, but senator susan collins and olympia snowe say they would like to include some protect as well for small business owners. well, no debt talks scheduled between republicans and the white house, but the president is pushing ahead with the fiscal cliff pr campaign. he is meeting with a middle class family in northern virginia, and the white house says the president is going to talk about his efforts to extend tax cuts for the middle class as part of this debt deal. well, some
coburn is known for his hard line on the deficit. he says he would rather bring down the debt by raising tax rates than just closing the loopholes and capping deducti s deductions. here's how he explained it. >> personally, i know we have to raise revenue. i don't really care which way we do it. actually, i would rather see the rates go up than do it the other way because it gives us greater chance to broaden the by as in the future and reform the tax code. >> two republican...
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clearly our real dwogoal here io come up with a plan that moves us to the budget deficit and to reduce the debt. we need to deal on the revenue side, many vehicles there, to use, and we also need to deal with the expense side. i think it is crafting a solution on both of those that is going to allow us to find a solution. >> all on the table and hopefully they will work and sort of meet in the middle and find that compromise. let's -- >> actually, this is the enabler for economic development in the united states. this is absolutely important we do this. >> i want to ask you about that, in just a moment. let's talk cars. i know you are relaunching the lincoln -- >> please. >> yes, we will. the lincoln brand, making it part of the lincoln motor company, buying a super bowl ad, putting lincoln in the commercials. when you look at this new car, i have to be honest, this is not my grandfather's lincoln. >> there you go. >> this is a new lincoln. was that the point? >> absolutely. and it is just -- it is absolutely the main point because, you know, the lincoln motor company has been associat
clearly our real dwogoal here io come up with a plan that moves us to the budget deficit and to reduce the debt. we need to deal on the revenue side, many vehicles there, to use, and we also need to deal with the expense side. i think it is crafting a solution on both of those that is going to allow us to find a solution. >> all on the table and hopefully they will work and sort of meet in the middle and find that compromise. let's -- >> actually, this is the enabler for economic...